Showing posts with label Lucinda Creighton. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Lucinda Creighton. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 5, 2016

Renua general election manifesto


Whilst the date of the upcoming general election has not yet been set, Renua, the new political party is first out of the traps in announcing its manifesto. See RTE report

Pro-lifers had great hopes of this party as it was set up by Lucinda Creighton who stood by her convictions and voted against the pro-abortion, Protection of Life in Pregnancy, legislation at the high personal cost of ejection from the Fine Gael parliamentary party and loss of her ministerial post prior to setting up the new party

There was considerable dismay in pro-life and pro-family circles however at Ms. Creighton’s statement in February 2015 prior to the same sex marriage referendum that she was a supporter of the marriage equality referendum and she intended to vote in favour of it.

Ms Creighton in presenting the Renua manifesto at a press conference claimed no party would have a clear-cut majority after the election and the question voters had to ask was "who would be their watchdog in government?".  

The new manifesto concentrates on tax reform and other political issues but  the meeting was told By Ms. Creighton that that the party would not be taking a view on the question of liberalising abortion legislation and that there were other social issues facing the electorate.

Clearly there are different opinions in the new party on the pro-life issue.
On a show of hands 14 of the eighteen party members indicated they opposed removal of the 8th amendment (the pro-life amendment) from the constitution.

The good news is that 14 out of the 18  Renua party members standing for election appear to be pro-life.

Friday, November 15, 2013

Lucinda Creighton TD, interview on Spirit Radio 31st Oct 2013


Lucinda Creighton TD, who resigned from her role as Minister of European Affairs and from the Fine Gael party whip, rather than vote in favour of the Government abortion legislation, was interviewed on Spirit Radio by Ronan Johnston, during his programme Rojo in the morning, on October 31st
During the interview Ms Creighton said;
“The reality was also that you had a junior coalition partner in the doldrums in terms of opinion polls, under pressure because of the very difficult economic decisions we had taken as a government. And they needed something.  And I think it’s pretty horrific to think that a trade-off could be made between budget cuts and the introduction of abortion, but that’s actually what happened, let’s be frank about it.
So the trade-off was to keep the Labour Party happy that people in Fine Gael who were deeply uncomfortable with the idea of legalising abortion or legislating for a more liberal abortion regime in Ireland would just have to, as somebody said in the corridors of Leinster House, they’d just have to “suck it up”.  And, you know, the Labour Party backbenchers were feeling pain on the economy so therefore Fine Gael backbenchers would just have to suck it up on the issue of abortion.  And that’s basically what happened.” 
The full interview is available on podcast on this link

Monday, July 15, 2013

Commentary on the Irish Government pro-abortion vote


Much has been said and much written about last week’s decision by Dail Eireann to allow the killing of unborn babies. The Government decision is to be deplored and there is no doubt that many people will work solidly either to stop this proposed legislation in its tracks, before it is finally enacted, or to have it overturned at the earliest possible date.
The insistence by Taoiseach Enda Kenny of the application of the Party whip system in a case like this is also to be deplored. Party loyalty is of course important but it is contrary to every reasonable understanding of democracy that any deputy should be forced to vote against his or her conscience.
Some deputies were coerced and others cajoled into supporting the legislation and some simply said no. One of the saddest statements was that of Michelle Mulherin who admitted that though she was finally voting for the legislation she was doing so against her better judgement and was doing so only to avoid being ‘booted out of the party’.
Lucinda Creighton on the other hand stood by her convictions and voted against the legislation at a high personal cost, ejection from the parliamentary party and loss of her ministerial post. Importantly deputy Creighton who has shown herself to be a person of high caliber made some very incisive remarks about the body politic and the media in this country.
The following article was published in the Mail on Sunday and also appears on Lucinda Creighton’s BLOG
On July 1st I delivered a speech in the Dáil at the Second Stage of the abortion bill. I took the opportunity to elaborate my concerns about abortion in a general societal sense, as well as focusing on specific aspects of the proposed Bill which I considered, and still consider, to be deeply flawed.

Interestingly for me, the one phrase I used which was picked up and referenced repeatedly by media and political colleagues was “group think”. This seemed to touch a raw nerve and some were apparently very angry about it. My speech was incorrectly picked up as singling out members of the Fine Gael Parliamentary Party for participating in group think. This is not what i said.

What I said in fact, was that group think is a negative feature in society, in the media and in political life. Increasingly we are all supposed to think and speak the same way. There is less and less room in this country for a diversity of opinion, for real and meaningful debate and for genuine analysis. We are all supposed to swim with the tide on every occasion. I consider this dangerous. I am certain that this is dangerous for our democracy.

This was a long and difficult week, particularly for many in the Fine Gael party. Five of us argued for the right to express an alternative (though previously entirely accepted) view on this vitally important piece of legislation. We lost the internal battle to have our voices heard and our consciences respected. This is not a good thing for the democratic process in this State.

Much of the commentary in the aftermath of Thursday’s vote confirmed to me that our media perpetuates the blind group think which prevailed and contributed to the economic collapse in this country. I listened to the Friday Panel on Today with Pat Kenny. The level of analysis or understanding of what is happening in our shambolic Parliamentary system was alarming.

A commentator from the Irish Times seemed only capable of understanding the events of the week in terms of “strength” “power” and “crushing opponents”. To him is was just a numbers game. He was entirely uninterested in the substance of the disagreement, or the fact that an important viewpoint was ignored or “whipped into line”.

He seemed to believe that the only issue at hand was the fact that “only five” TDs had voted against the legislation and this was somehow a great victory for the Government, its senior figures and Fine Gael. This is a sad and shallow analysis, which ignores the fundamental questions of democracy which were raised thought the last few weeks when elected Members of our Parliament were, in many instances, coerced and cajoled into voting for legislation they clearly considered to be faulty and against their better judgement.

 My colleague Michelle Mulherin summed this up. She has unfairly been subjected to much criticism in recent days. I would defend her stridently, because she had the courage to tell the truth. I understand completely the dilemma she found herself in. I was there too. I took a different decision, by voting against the legislation. She clearly wrestled with her ultimate decision and eventually decided to vote for it. She did so to avoid being “booted out” of Fine Gael, her party. I felt sick to the pit of my stomach listening to her speech in the Dáil Chamber – out of sadness for her, and the choice she has clearly been forced to take to avoid expulsion. There is something so, so wrong with this. Citizens of this country ought to be concerned at the words uttered by Michelle. They genuinely gave me a deep sense of foreboding.

In every other modern western democracy that I have studied, public representatives are not and would never be, forced to choose between their conscience and their party. That is worth considering and reflecting upon. This includes Australia, New Zealand, the USA, the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and many, many more. In my investigations I could not find any other democratic country on this planet that forces people to vote against their conscience. Ireland has the dubious distinction of standing alone in its denial of conscience. This is not something I am proud of. Nobody should be.

The great democrat and peace maker Mahatma Ghandi said “In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place”. This is correct. History has taught us what savagery and crimes against humanity can occur, when people abandon their conscience, for the sake of the quiet life, or worse, to satisfy personal ambition. Our State should guard against this, rather than try to normalise it. And we as citizens should demand that this be so.

Some might suggest that this issue of the imposition of the “three line whip” is only coming into focus for me because I myself have just lost the whip and been expelled or “booted it” from my parliamentary party. However, I have been raising this concern for years. In 2010 at the MacGill Summer School in Glenties I raised my concerns in a public fashion, and it caused some disquiet.

“In Ireland … the most stringent form of whip, the three line whip is imposed for every single vote. This demonstrates to me a lack of confidence amongst political parties. It shows an immature democracy, which urgently needs to grow up to meet the needs of a mature people. It also creates a fertile environment for mediocrity to flourish, where politicians are enabled and indeed encouraged to avoid individual accountability. The result of our entrenched and archaic party whip system is that our politicians can dodge personal responsibility for their own political decisions.”

I stand over that view. Politicians in this country really do need to stand up and be counted. I don’t advocate the abandonment of the Whip system. It is an essential fundament of a stable economy and a stable society. Coherent positions and voting by political parties are essential in the context of the annual Budget, all finance measures, social welfare measures and so on. But there it should stop.

Those “commentators” who cheer the crushing of political opponents, and applaud the stifling of debate in Ireland, do no service to either good journalism or good politics. In fact they are complicit with the rot in a system which so desperately needs changing.

Their anxiety to take quotes and spin from “well placed sources” may make their contributions sound plausible and knowledgeable. In fact, they are missing the real story.

Friday, July 12, 2013

Minister Creighton exercises conscientious objection despite Enda Kenny's threats


Fine Gael Minister for European Affairs Lucinda Creighton, following unsuccessful attempts to have the Government “Protection of Life in Pregnancy Bill amended, finally voted yesterday against her own Government Party. In so doing Minister Creighton was automatically expelled from the Fine Gael parliamentary party and had to relinquish her European Affairs Ministry.
Speaking during the two-day debate on the 165 amendments tabled in relation to the bill Minister Creighton, prior to voting against the measure, told the Dail “the consequences of the legislation are not reversible”. She said the consequences will “change the culture of our country and change how we deal with vulnerable women”. Creighton also appealed to Health Minister James Reilly, asking him to “please listen to the evidence which had been put forward by medical experts during the recent Oireachtas hearings and she asked “please let’s not enshrine flawed logic, flawed legislation on our statue books”. 
At the end of her speech she asked Minister Reilly to accept her amendment calling for a clinical care pathway for vulnerable women who are feeling suicidal.
She continued: “Why are we insisting that abortion, which has no medical grounding, is going to be enshrined in our statue book as the only treatment for women who find themselves in that desperate place?”. I am lost for words because I cannot understand why this proposal is being insisted upon by you and your Government.

Creighton said that while she supports the overall intention of the legislation, which is supposed to be about protecting and saving the lives of women and babies, she said she “cannot support a clause that is essentially built on sand”, referring to section 9 of the bill, which covers suicide.
She alleged this legislation ignores a very recent court case where a woman sought that her deportation order would be quashed on the grounds that if she were to be deported she would take her own life.
When the High Court dealt with the case, Mr Justice Hanna said in his judgement:
“To permit the threat of suicide to act as a stop on the execution of administrative decisions, such as deportation, would be to open a Pandora’s box of potential abuse with the possible effects of paralysing administrative activity in any given area of government.”
Creighton said that to not allow the deportation in this case, but to allow abortion due to the threat of suicide “is entirely inconsistent”.

Ms Creighton had previously expressed the opinion recently that failure to vindicate the life of the unborn could invalidate the legislation “I think the legislation could be struck down for not including a way to vindicate the life of the unborn.” She added her personal conviction that any legislation arising from the Bill should contain amendments guaranteeing constitutional protections for both mother and unborn child.

Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Up to 10 heroic members of Fine Gael Party poised to defy party whip and vote against Irish Government pro-abortion legislation


The Independent reports that Lucinda Creighton could lead up to 10 rebels from Fine Gael over abortion bill

According to the report European Affairs Minister Lucinda Creighton is poised to lead a string of Fine Gael TDs in voting against the Government's abortion bill.
The report which can be accessed on this link continues below  
It means as many as 10 Fine Gael deputies could lose the party whip, a rebellion that would put a huge dent in its parliamentary ranks.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has rejected suggestions of major changes to the contentious legislation – which could spark the biggest Dail rebellion in living memory.

Mr Kenny has informed some TDs they will not be Fine Gael candidates in the next election if they defy the party whip.

Senior government sources admit they could lose as many as 10 TDs, but say the more likely figure is six.

The fallout could reduce the number of Fine Gael TDs from its current level of 74 to as low as 64 – although the Government would still have a comfortable majority. Four TDs have already committed to voting against the bill, while as many as six more are waiting for their concerns to be met as the legislation goes through the Oireachtas over the next fortnight.

Ms Creighton made a strident speech in the Dail that could ultimately see her split from the Fine Gael parliamentary part and lose her ministerial job.

Ms Creighton said "Fine Gael was a party which unashamedly defended the right to life and issued repeated statements to that effect over the years, including stridently in advance of the last general election".

She said she did not want to "give up" on the Government's work for economic recovery, but she was "making a decision on life and death".

"All I can do . . . is consult my conscience, which is based on my sense of what is right and what is wrong. What else can I consult?"

Internal Fine Gael exchanges are becoming increasingly bitter, with Justice Minister Alan Shatter describing some of Ms Creighton's claims as "extraordinary", while backbenchers accused the whip system of "bullying".

Some Fine Gael TDs who have difficulties with the issue of suicide as grounds for abortion acknowledged that Mr Kenny has already shut down the prospect of substantial changes to the bill. Ms Creighton asked for the suicide clause to be removed, but Mr Kenny said: "This is not possible, and would, in my view, be counterproductive."

LIBERAL

Mr Kenny also rejected calls for confirmation of a legal term limit for abortion, and sought to allay fears the legislation could lead to a liberal abortion regime.

"If I, as a person who is opposed to abortion, thought for one moment that this bill would lead to a liberal abortion regime in Ireland, I would not be asking the House to enact it," he said.

As the most senior TD to express major reservations, Ms Creighton's stance could also encourage others to defy party bosses and she has become a focal point for potential rebels.

Deputies Peter Mathews, Brian Walsh, Terence Flanagan and Billy Timmins have already said they will vote against the Government, while others like Ms Creighton, John Paul Phelan, John O'Mahony, James Bannon, Michelle Mulherin, Sean Conlan and Ray Butler are waiting to see if the bill can still be changed or clarified.

Some wavering TDs feel they can secure some changes before the final vote ahead of the Dail recess later this month.

Other TDs whose support for the bill was thought to be in doubt – such as Damien English and Peter Fitzpatrick – have since indicated they will back it.

The first vote on the bill will be this evening, but many will vote it through at this stage before making a final call once the legislation has gone through the Oireachtas Health Committee, when amendments can be tabled.

Health Minister James Reilly met numerous TDs – including Ms Creighton – yesterday to discuss their concerns, but sources said he did not give any indications of changing the legislation substantially.

Ms Creighton, who asked for other substantial changes, flew to Strasbourg last night with Mr Kenny for his European Parliament speech, wrapping up the Irish Presidency of the EU.